Thomas SARE [1550]
(Cir 1711-)
John KYRWOOD [1551]
(Cir 1713-1746)
Margaret [1552]
(Cir 1713-1765)
Edward SAYER Mr. [1242]
(Cir 1739-1809)
Margaret KYRWOOD [1266]
(1743-1794)
William Kerwood SAYER [108]
(1779-1860)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Anne GIBBS [1240]

2. Elizabeth STONE [1241]

William Kerwood SAYER [108] 3 4

  • Born: 1779, Lyonshall, , Herefordshire, England 5
  • Christened: 6 Jul 1779 6
  • Marriage (1): Anne GIBBS [1240] on 8 Oct 1807 in Herbrandston, , Pembroke, Wales 1
  • Marriage (2): Elizabeth STONE [1241] on 9 Jul 1837 in Llanelly, Wales 2
  • Died: 19 Mar 1860, Swansea, , Glamorgan, Wales aged 81
  • Buried: 23 Mar 1860, Swansea, , Glamorgan, Wales 7

bullet   Another name for William was William Kibry SAYER.8

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bullet  General Notes:

Well this gentleman is an interesting character.
What do we know about him?
He was born in Lyonshall ref census 1851, while his 2nd wife was born in Somerset. I'm curious how someone from Herefordshire, meets someone, has a child in Sussex in the early 1820s and goes to Swansea/Llanelly where he buys a hotel.
Daughter Ann is not living with him and his 2nd wife in 1841, which I find strange. Also no children of 2nd marriage as far as I can tell. (could be that they didn't survive) Maybe I'll check the parish registers again.
I have details of 2nd marriage now, thanks to Jim Kimpton
married on July 9 1837 (must have been one of the first marriages to be so registered)
William was an innkeeper at Saddlers Arms (widower)
Elizabeth lived in "Thomas Arms" and was a spinster

Williams father was Edward Sayer (farmer)
Elizabeth's father was Thomas Stone (farmer)
may 1, for the 2nd week in a row, have interrogated the Lyonshall pr's
I had previously assumed his age (as per census) as being reasonable accurate. But the regs show that he was shaving quite a bit off his age (maybe wife # 2 didn't realize how old he was)
According to the Lyonshall regs, he had to have been born in 1779 not 1799.
I have lost the detail of the baptism which is a pain, I will se e if I can get it back - when I clicked the wrong "cancel" button it disappeared

DEATHS, DEATH NOTICES 30 January 1836 MRS ANN GIBBS SAYER, AGED 46, WIFE OF W.SAYER, LLANELLY.

MARRIAGES, MARRIAGE 22 July 1837 MR W.K.SAYER, LANDLORD OF BUSH INN,SWANSEA.
Cambrian B10 MARRIAGES, MARRIAGE 22 July 1837 MR W.K.SAYER, L ANDLORD OF BUSH INN,SWANSEA. TO MISS ELIZABETH JONES OF LLANELLY.
Cambrian H34 BUILDINGS, COMMERCIAL BUILDING, INNS, PUBLIC HOUSES, HOTELS, SOCIAL CLUBS 29 July 1837 W.K.SAYER HAS TAKEN OVER THE BUSH INN & COMMERCIAL HOTEL,HIGH STREET, SWANSEA.

Cambrian H34 BUILDINGS, COMMERCIAL BUILDING, INNS, PUBLIC HOUSES, HOTELS, SOCIAL CLUBS 25 July 1840 SWANSEA PETTY SESSIONS:WM.KERWOOD SAYER,BUSH INN,V T.HARRIES - THEFT OF FRUIT FROM GARDEN.
CRIME AND PUNISHMENT AND POLICE, BURGLARIES/THEFT ETC 25 July 1840 SWANSEA SESSIONS:WILLIAM KERWOOD SAYER, BUSH INN -V- THOMAS HARRIES,LABOURER. - GAOLED FOR THEFT
BUILDINGS, COMMERCIAL BUILDING, INNS, PUBLIC HOUSES, HOTELS, SOCIAL CLUBS 21 October 1843 MR SAYER OF THE BUSH INN - SHERIFF'S ORDINARY
CRIME AND PUNISHMENT AND POLICE, BURGLARIES/THEFT ETC 03 February 1844 SWANSEA PETTY SESSIONS. HENRY HUDSON,FOR TRIAL AT ASSIZES THEFT FROM MISS SAYER.
which miss sayer???

CRIME AND PUNISHMENT AND POLICE, BURGLARIES/THEFT ETC 19 October 1844 GLAMORGAN SESSIONS. JAMES EVANS CHARGED WITH THEFT FROM W.K.SAYER. SWANSEA.

AGRICULTURE, SHOWS AND SOCIETIES 21 December 1844 SWANSEA FARMERS CLUB DINNER AT MR SAYER'S THE BUSH INN SWANSEA.
DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, OTHER ACCIDENTS 07 August 1846 WILLIAM EDWARDS, EMPLOYEE OF MR SAYER, BUSH INN SWANSEA -FELL INTO THE SEA, AND RESCUED.
BUILDINGS, COMMERCIAL BUILDING, INNS, PUBLIC HOUSES, HOTELS, SOCIAL CLUBS 14 May 1847 MR SAYER, BUSH INN, SWANSEA. DINNER AFTER THE LEET COURT.
SPORTS AND RECREATION, OTHER SPORTS, BOXING AND PRIZE FIGHTING 28 January 1848 JONES -V- SAYER, AT A FIELD NEAR NEATH - JONES BREAKS HIS ARM.
MARRIAGES, MARRIAGE 07 July 1848 MR J.POWE,CONFECTIONER,TO MISS ANN GIBBS SAYER OF THE BUSH INN SWANSEA.AT LLANELLY
Cambrian G50 PLANNING AND LAND MANAGEMENT, TOWN PLANNING 07 September 1849 SWANSEA PAVING COMMISSIONERS:MR.SAYER,THE BUSH,HIGH ST, - RE PORTICO OVER PAVEMENT.

PLANNING AND LAND MANAGEMENT, TOWN PLANNING 10 May 1850 SWANSEA PAVING COMMISSIONERS: W.K. SAYER AND PORTICO AT THE BUSH INN HIGH STREET.
CRIME AND PUNISHMENT AND POLICE, MONETARY DISPUTES, DEBTS AND FINANCIAL CLAIMS 28 June 1850 SWANSEA COUNTY COURT: O.G. WILLIAMS V PHILLIP WILLIAMS. W.T.SAYER V JOHN GRANGER
BUILDINGS, COMMERCIAL BUILDING, INNS, PUBLIC HOUSES, HOTELS, SOCIAL CLUBS 19 July 1850 SWANSEA SESSIONS:MR.SAYER, OF THE BUSH INN -V- JOSEPH SILVEY & MARIA SILVEY (THEFT).
BUILDINGS, COMMERCIAL BUILDING, INNS, PUBLIC HOUSES, HOTELS, SOCIAL CLUBS 07 May 1852 SWANSEA LEET COURTS - DINNER AT THE BUSH INN BY MR & MRS SAYER. P2
MINING AND INDUSTRY, METAL PROCESSING, COPPER INDUSTRY 14 May 1852 BANQUET AT CWMAVON WORKS-J.WILLIAMS,ASSAYLER, J.HORE.G.OAKSHOT,W.K.SAYER,J.JENKINS(SWANSEA)
BUILDINGS, COMMERCIAL BUILDING, INNS, PUBLIC HOUSES, HOTELS, SOCIAL CLUBS 17 September 1852 SWANSEA LICENSED VICTUALLERS SOC. MEETING. MR.JEFFREYS & MR.SAYER ATTEND. P3
BUILDINGS, COMMERCIAL BUILDING, INNS, PUBLIC HOUSES, HOTELS, SOCIAL CLUBS 17 September 1852 SWANSEA LICENSED VICTUALLERS SOCIETY.TRUSTEES & AUDITORS:MR.SAYER,BUSH;MR.DAVIES,CASTLE. P3
CRIME AND PUNISHMENT AND POLICE, MONETARY DISPUTES, DEBTS AND FINANCIAL CLAIMS 17 August 1855 SWANSEA COUNTY COURT:THOMAS GLOVER V EVAN HUMPHREYS.WILLIAM SAYER V WILLIAM EDWARDS.
BUILDINGS, COMMERCIAL BUILDING, INNS, PUBLIC HOUSES, HOTELS, SOCIAL CLUBS 18 April 1856 DUKE OF BEAUFORT'S COURT LEET DINNER AT THE BUSH INN SWANSEA.(MR & MRS SAYER).
PLANNING AND LAND MANAGEMENT, COPYHOLD AND FREEHOLD TENURE 08 May 1857 LEET COURTS FOR GOWER AND KILVEY - JURY:GWYN HARRY,PHILLIP WALTERS,JOHN LEWIS,W.K.SAYER. P4.

DEATHS, DEATH NOTICES 23 March 1860 ON MARCH 19, FORMERLY LANDLORD OF BUSH HOTEL,HIGH STREET, SWANSEA, W.K. SAYER. AGED 75 YEARS,

MARRIAGES, MARRIAGE 10 October 1862 MR.SAMUEL EDWARDS,ARCHITECT,BATH,TO MRS. ELIZABETH SAYER,HIGH STREET,SWANSEA.

bullet  Research Notes:

How do I know he died after 1851? I have him in 1837 marrying wife #2,
I have his will showing date of death as 1860

Well this gentleman is an interesting character.
What do we know about him?
He was born in Lyonshall ref census 1851, while his 2nd wife was born in somerset. I'm curious how someone from Herefordshire, meets someone (unknown for now) has a child in Sussex in the early 1820s and goes to Swansea/Llanelly where he buys a hotel.
Ann is not living with him and his 2nd wife in 1841, which I find strange. Also no children of 2nd marriage as far as I can tell. (could be that they didn't survive) Maybe I'll check the parish registers again.
Another strange thing - Ann and John both have fathers named William, yet of their 7 sons none have William as a name, first or second, does this indicate a schism?
I'm going to order the pr for lyonshall
I have details of 2nd marriage now, thanks to Jim Kimpton
married on Jul 9 1837 (must have been one of the first marriages to be so registered)
William was an innkeeper at Saddlers Arms (widower)
Elizabeth lived in "Thomas Arms" and was a spinster

Williams father was Edward Sayer (farmer)
Elizabeth's father was Thomas Stone (farmer)
may 1, for the 2nd week in a row, have interrogated the Lyonshall prs
I had previously assumed his age (as per census) as being reasonable accurate. But the regs show that he was shaving quite a bit off his age (maybe wife # 2 didn't realize how old he was)
According to the Lyonshall regs, he had to have been born in 1779 not 1799.
I have lost the detail of the baptismwhich is a pain, I will se e if I can get it bacj - when i clicked the wrong "cancel" button it disappeared

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bullet  Noted events in his life were:

1. Occupation: Inn Keeper. 4 8 "The Bush" 233 High Street

2. Occupation: Innkeeper, 1835, Llanelly, Wales. 9 "Saddlers' Arms"

3. Lived at: The High Street, 1841, Swansea, , Glamorgan, Wales.

4. Occupation: Inn Keeper, 1841, Swansea, , Glamorgan, Wales.

5. Lived at: Bush Hotel, High Street, 1851, Swansea, , Glamorgan, Wales. 10

6. Occupation: Licenced Victualler, 1851, Swansea, , Glamorgan, Wales. 10

7. Lived at: The Bush, 223 High Street, 1856, Swansea, , Glamorgan, Wales.


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William married Anne GIBBS [1240] [MRIN: 366], daughter of John GIBBS [10983] and Ann [10982], on 8 Oct 1807 in Herbrandston, , Pembroke, Wales.1 (Anne GIBBS [1240] was born circa 1790 and died on 13 Jan 1836 in Swansea, , Glamorgan, Wales.)


bullet  Marriage Notes:

First name(s)ANNE
Last nameGIBBS
Birth year-
Marriage year1807
Marriage day08
Marriage monthOct
PlaceHERBRANDSTON
Spouse's first name(s)WILLIAM
Spouse's last nameKEWARD
Bride's parishHarbeston
Groom's parishHarbeston
ParishHerbrandston
CountyPembrokeshire
CountryWales
Record setPembroke Marriages
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Record collectionMarriages & divorces
Collections fromUnited Kingdom

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William next married Elizabeth STONE [1241] [MRIN: 369], daughter of Thomas STONE [1243] and Unknown, on 9 Jul 1837 in Llanelly, Wales.2 (Elizabeth STONE [1241] was born circa 1812 in Wiveliscombe, Wiveliscombe, , Somerset, England and died between 1862 and 1871.)


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Sources


1 (Births, Marriages, Deaths(LDS) , Transcribed from Microfilm copies of original registers), BT Herbrandston.

2 England and Wales, marriage certificate for William Kerwood Sayer and Elizabeth Stone, married Ninth July; citing 26/564/5, September quarter 1837, Llanelly registration district; General Register Office, Southport.

3 Published by Ancestry.co.uk (1851 English and Welsh Census(London, TNA/Ancestry.co.uk, 1952) , Web site showing copies of original enumerator schedules), CEN 1871 Swansea 299 31.

4 England and Wales, marriage certificate for Joseph Hall and Mary Kelly, married 25th June; citing 11a/759/490, June quarter 1860, Swansea registration district, Swansea sub-district; General Register Office, Southport; 1860 parish church parish of swansea glamorgan
490
25th june 1860
joseph hall
mary kelly
of full age
of full age
bachelor
widow
shoemaker
-
wells street
wells street
william hall
jeremiah kelly
tailor
sailor
mark of mary kelly
daniel callaghan
the mark of emily lynch
banns
latimer jones curate

5 (1901 English and Welsh Census(London, TNA/Ancestry.co.uk, 2002) , Web site showing copies of original enumerator schedules).

6 LDS, Lyonshall, Hef.

7 Family History Online, FFHS pay per view databases for England and Wales, Glamorgan Burial index march 23 1860.

8 England and Wales, marriage certificate for John Powe and Ann Gibbs Sayer, married July 6; citing 26/699/22, September quarter 1848, Llanelly registration district; General Register Office, Southport; #22 church Llanelly Carmarthen
July 6 1848
john Powe full age b, confectioner, Llanelly, William Powe carpenter
Ann Gibbs Sayer, full age, sm - , Swansea, William Kirby Sayer, inn keeper
witness Joan kinsberry john Jenkins
; No Evidence that William Powe existed - as John is mostly like the illegitimate child of Jane Pow(e)

9 (Directory(various, 1800 - 1970) , Copies of original Directory pages via web site.), DIR Pigot & Co.'s Directory of Derbys, Herefs ... , 1835 (llanelly).

10 Published by Ancestry.co.uk (1851 English and Welsh Census(London, TNA/Ancestry.co.uk, 1952) , Web site showing copies of original enumerator schedules), CEN 1851 ho 107 2466 299 30.


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