LEE [1940]
(-After 1859)
Mark LEE [1429]
(Cir 1859-After 1901)
Caroline [1520]
(Cir 1865-After 1901)

Helena Bessie LEE [208]
(1893-1933)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Herbert Temple NIDD [7]

Helena Bessie LEE [208] 2 3

  • Born: 1893, Loughton, , Essex, England 2
  • Marriage (1): Herbert Temple NIDD [7] on 6 Jul 1918 in W. Holloway, Islington, , Middlesex, England 1
  • Died: 27 Dec 1933, Steyning, Hove, , Sussex, England aged 40 3 4

bullet   Cause of her death was Suicide.

bullet   Other names for Helena were Helena Mary LEE and WHITTLES.

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bullet  General Notes:

From the info disclosed at the inquest into her death, it would seem that her marriage to Herbert only lasted 3 or 4 years before her drinking and his "associating with other people' caused their break up - he apparently went to America (?) and she went to Egypt? with a Captain Harold Whittles - she lived with him for about 10 years before her drinking saw him off too.
Deaths Dec 1933 (>99%)
Nidd Helena B T 41 Steyning 2b417

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bullet  Noted events in her life were:

1. Lived at: Tisbury Road, 1932, Hove, , Sussex, England. 5

2. Lived at: Lansdowne Street, 1933, Hove, , Sussex, England.


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Helena married Herbert Temple NIDD [7] [MRIN: 64], son of Charles Robert NIDD [67] and Janet TURNER [68], on 6 Jul 1918 in W. Holloway, Islington, , Middlesex, England.1 (Herbert Temple NIDD [7] was born on 20 Feb 1898 in Nottingham, , Nottingham, England,2 6 7 8 died on 1 Oct 1944 in Southampton, , Hampshire, England 9 10 and was buried on 6 Oct 1944 in Southampton, , Hampshire, England.). The cause of his death was arteriolar sclerosis, gastritis, natural causes.


bullet  Marriage Notes:

St. Lukes CHurch

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Sources


1 England and Wales, marriage certificate for Herbert Temple Nidd and Helen Bessie Lee, married July 6th, 1918; citing 1b/601/123, September quarter 1918, Islington registration district, St. Lukes Holloway sub-district; General Register Office, Southport; 1918 St. Lukes, W. Holloway Parish of Islington, County of London
123 July 6th 1918,
Herbert Temple Nidd,
Helena Bessie Lee,
21, 25,
bachelor, spinster
Subliieut, RWNR -, 9 Hilldrop Road W. Holloway,
Ditto,
Charles Robert Nidd,
Mark Lee
Farmer,
Retired
Witness Caroline Lee, Gertrude Lee
W.W. Ruces

2 England and Wales, marriage certificate for Herbert Temple Nidd and Helen Bessie Lee, married July 6th, 1918; citing 1b/601/123, September quarter 1918, Islington registration district, St. Lukes Holloway sub-district; General Register Office, Southport; 1918 St. Lukes, w. Holloway parish of Islington, county of London
123 July 6th 1918,
Herbert temple Nidd,
Helena Bessie lee,
21, 25,
b,s,
subliieut, rwnr, -, 9 hilldrop road w. Holloway,
ditto,
Charles Robert Nidd,
mark lee,
farmer,
retired
witness Caroline lee, Gertrude lee
W.W. Ruces

3 England and Wales, death certificate for Helena Bessie Temple-Nidd, died Twenty Seventh December; citing 2b/417/423, December quarter 1933, Steyning registration district, Hove sub-district; General Register Office, Southport; teyning, 1933, hove, county of east Sussex
423,
dead body found twenty seventh December 1933
56 Lansdowne street, Hove. u.d.,
Helena Bessie Temple-Nidd,
f,41 years,
wife of _ Temple-Nidd a naval officer,
carbon monoxide poisoning from inhaling domestic coal gas by her own act so killing herself while not of sound mind. certificate received from G. F. Hoare, coroner for Lewes district of East. Sussex, inquest held DEC 28 1933, 29,12/1933

4 (Brighton , Brighton and Hove Herald), transcribed from copies obtained from Colindale (British Library).

5 Newspaper Article, NEWS Brighton and Hove Herald Saturday December 30, 1933. WOMAN'S SUICIDE WHILE ON REMAND
Disclosures at Hove Inquest
Charged with shoplifting; found dead in a gas filled room; the disclosure that the name under which she was living was not her real name - these were remarkable features of an inquest story at Hove on Thursday concerning a woman known as Mrs. Helen Whittles.
A brother in law told the Coroner (Dr. E.F.Hoare) that, as far as he knew, her name was Helena Bessie Temple-Nidd, and her age about 41. She was married in 1918, but after three or four years she and her husband parted. There was unhappiness owing to her drinking habits and husband's association with other people. Later he understood that she was living as Mrs. Whittles, and had taken an apartment house in Tisbury-road Hove, with "this Captain Whittles".
Councillor Frank Lee, of Connaught-terrace, said that the woman was his neice. In June, 1932, after many years, she called to see him, with a man named Captain Whittles, a retired Artillery officer. In August she seemed very upset and worried, and she told him that she had received a letter from Captain Whittles in which he refused to return to her.
Mr Lee said that when he questioned her, his neice told him that her real husband was a Naval officer, who had gone to America. She afterwards called frequently at his house, and seemed still more worried and depressed.
Mr Lee added, "In justification to Captain Whittles, apart from the conditions in which he was living with my niece, he was an extremely likeable man, and he did everything he possibly could to make her contented and happy. He also did his upmost to try and disuade her from Drinking. If she had only taken his advice he would never had thought of leaving her.
The woman was found dead in a room at an apartment house in Lansdowne-street, the proprietress of which told the Coroner that she was told by Mrs. Whittles that she had come from Egypt.
Suicide Threat Ignored
P.C. Ward said that on a pad, written in ink, he found a message: "I intend to sue that dreadful man Cook for assault, I never did this thing I am accused of - H" The message apparently referred to the prosecutor who had preferred a charge of shoplifting against the woman.
Detective Constable Hold said that Mrs Whittles was brought to the police station on December 21 and charged with stealing mushrooms and asparagus valued at 4s 6d. She was remanded on bail till New Year's Day.
When she was searched, Detective Holt continued, two letters suggesting suicide were found in her possession. From her demeanour it was not thought that her intention was serious and she had obviously been drinking.
She said that Captain Whittles had been sending her 35/- a week, but had left her and had gone abroad. The letters were written before there was any suggestion of a charge against her.
The Coroner read from one letter addressed to him, this extract: "I am sorry to do this. I am in distress, lonely and unhappy. Captain Harold Whittles has taken me abroad and protected me for the last ten years, but now he has deserted me and sold up my home abroad."
THere followed directions about her property, and the extract ended with the sentence "Captain Whittles can pay for my funeral"
The other letter, addressed to "Harold" contained these words, "this is the last chance you will get before I die. You and the rest of them are selfish mean, and cruel. You will suffer a thousandfold if you don't come back and make me another home. I will give you two days. The Coroner said that the woman seemed to have been her own enemy throughout. It appeared that Captain Whittles, who had lived with her for some time, would not have left her without due cause. She seemed to have been chronically alcoholic for a good number of years.
Returning a verdict of "Suicide while of unsound mind" the coroner said that the prosecution had nothing whatsoever to do with her suicide. She had made up her mind long before she was arrested.

6 1901 census of England, Nottinghamshire, St. John the Evan, Nottingham, page 32, Charles Robert Nidd and family; digital images, Ancestry, Ancestry (www.ancestry.co.uk : accessed 2004); citing PRO RG 13/3187.

7 England and Wales, marriage certificate for Herbert Temple-Nidd and Audrey Lillian Parkinson, married Ninth June; citing 2c/212/24, June quarter 1928, Southampton registration district; General Register Office, Southport; Southampton
register office county of Southampton ud.
24, 9th June 1928,
Herbert Temple-Nidd,
Audrey Lillian Parkinson,
35, 24, b, s, mercantile marine clerk,-,
12 Brunswick place, ditto,
Charles Robert temple Nidd deceased,
William bailey Parkinson deceased, farmer, actor
; Note, Charles Robert Temple (sic) Nidd was not deceased at this time. He was living in Australia with his 'wife'.

8 England and Wales, birth certificate for Herbert Temple Nidd, born Twentieth February 1898; citing 7B/435/370, March quarter 1898, Nottingham registration district, Nottingham South East in the County of Nottingham sub-district; General Register Office, Southport; Nottingham 1898, Nottingham South East, County of Nottingham
370
20th February 1898
101 Thorneywood Rise U.D..
Herbert Temple, boy,
Charles Robert Nidd,
Janet Nidd formerly Turner,
Glass Beveller,
C.R. Nidd father,
7.3.1898
William Marriott Registrar

9 Commonwealth War Graves Commission (Record of deaths of serving military and some civilians in 20th Century conflicts(CWGC) , Web site showing transcripts of Memorials), WEB CWGC.

10 (Record of Death(GRO) , Certificate), ih735427.


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