John Turner
(Cir 1841-After 1881)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Ellen

John Turner 1 2 3

  • Born: Cir 1841, Ireland 1
  • Marriage (1): Ellen
  • Died: After 1881 1 2 3
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bullet  General Notes:

Dwelling:15 Lomas St
Census Place:Nottingham St Mary, Nottingham, England
Source:FHL Film 1341801 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3354 Folio 10 Page 13
MarrAgeSexBirthplace
John TURNERM40 MIreland
Rel:Head
Occ:Engine Fitter
Ellen TURNERM39 FIreland
Rel:Wife
Ellen TURNERU19 FBirmingham
Rel:Dau
Occ:Lace Finisher
Kate TURNERU14 F (B S), America
Rel:Dau
Occ:Lace Finisher
Jane TURNERU9 FBirmingham
Rel:Dau
Occ:Scholar

suspect that this is the family can't find any others and I know Jane (Janet) ended up in Nottingham where she met and married Charles Robert Nidd and that she had a sister Helen (Ellen/Helen are often interchangeable)
According to daughter Helen's marriage cert
John Turner was a "Civil Engineer' and not indicated as deceased (1899)
but a check of all the certified engineer index shows no sign of him. I suspect 'railway engineer' more likely

bullet  Research Notes:

Death as per marriage cert of Janet - prior to 1895 - free bmd is not yet inclusive - as of may 31 2003 - too many across the country , too many gaps - to find a suitable one in nottingham. Need to look at gros if i have the time - etobicoke or other

fiches' i've looked at
turner
rg12/2705
fiche #1 - x - 3
2706 1 - x
2703 16,17,18
2694 8
2704 24 nothing

This is a possible despite the wife indicated as Mary. (Mary Ellen???)
JOhn and spouse lodging in Nottingham

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bullet  Noted events in his life were:



1. Lodged: Red Lion Street, 1861, Nottingham, , Nottingham, England. 4

2. Lived at: 15 Lomas Street, 1881, Nottingham, , Nottingham, England. 1



3. Occupation: engine fitter, 1881, Nottingham, , Nottingham, England. 1 3


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John married Ellen. (Ellen was born circa 1842 in Ireland 1 and died after 1891 1.)


bullet  Marriage Notes:

poss marriage


TURNER, John
Registration District: HelpBasford
County: Nottinghamshire
Year of Registration: 1862
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help7B
Page No: Help157
MarriageFinder™: John Turner married one of the following people Help


ARGYLE, Ellenview record

ELSTON, Maryview record

that's a possiblie, so is this

Name:John Turner
Gender:Male
Birth Date:abt 1841
Age:28
Father's Name:James Turner
Spouse's Name:Ellen Janet Pratt
Spouse's Age:28
Spouse's Father's Name:William Pratt
Marriage Date:9 Sep 1869
Marriage Place:Brighton, Sussex, England





whaat about htis one
First name(s)JOHN
Last nameTURNER
Marriage quarter2
Marriage year1857
Registration month-
MarriageFinder™JOHN TURNER married one of these people
Ellen Gretton, Ellen Gretten
DistrictMeriden
District number-
CountyWarwickshire
CountryEngland
Volume6D
Volume as transcribed6D
Page number401
Record setEngland & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryCivil Marriage & Divorce
Collections fromUnited Kingdom, England

another
First name(s)John
Last nameTurner
Name note-
Age56
Marriage year1861
Marriage date22 Jul 1861
Marriage placeManchester
Spouse's first name(s)Ellen
Spouse's last nameWorrall
Spouse's age46
Spouse's birth year1815
Spouse's birth date1815
CountyLancashire
CountryEngland
Record setEngland Marriages 1538-1973
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryParish Marriages
Collections fromEngland, United Kingdom

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Sources


1 1881 census of England, Nottinghamshire, St. Mary, Nottingham, folio 19, page 13, John and Ellen Turner; digital images, Ancestry, <i>Ancestry</i> (www.ancestry.co.uk : accessed 2004); citing PRO RG 11/3354. Cit. Date: 23 Jan 2009. Surety: 2.

2 England and Wales, marriage certificate for William Clarkson Wallis and Helen Stanhope Turner, married 26th Day of 4th Month; citing 2c/889/44, June quarter 1899, Reading registration district, Reading sub-district; General Register Office, Southport. Cit. Date: 29 Jan 2009. Cit. ID: MXE 150978, Surety: 4; 1899
at Reading
district of Reading
Berks
44
26th Day of 4th Month 1899
William Clarkson Wallis Helen Stanhope Turner
46 35
Bachelor Spinster
Wholesale Provision Merchant
Brighton Reading
Marriage Wallis John Turner
Wholesale Provision Merchant Civil Engineer
Friends Meeting House usages of the Society of Friend by Certificate
Daniel Hack
Charles Temple Nidd
Alfred Rawlings Registery Officer

3 England and Wales, marriage certificate for Charles Robert Nidd and Jannet Turner, married August 31; citing 7b/497/36, September quarter 1895, Nottingham registration district, District Parish Church of St. Saviour sub-district; General Register Office, Southport. Cit. Date: Jun 1998. Cit. ID: MXA 321858, Surety: 4; 1895
marriage at parish church, district parish of St. saviour, county of Nottinghamshire
36,
august 31, 1895,
Charles Robert Nidd,
Jannet turner,
21, 23,
bachelor,
spinster,
glassbeveller,
-,
76 bunbury street,
ditto,
William Henry Nidd,
john turner deceased,
rustic builder,
fitter
witness john Henry butter, Helen turner
H. Parker Curate

4 (1861 English and Welsh Census(London, TNA/Ancestry.co.uk, 1962) , Web site showing copies of original enumerator schedules) ID: CEN 1861, See image. Repository: LDS, Brampton. Surety: 1. Name not right for wife, but Mary could be "Mary Ellen"
it's the most logical one, seeing as Helen claims Nottingham as her birth place.


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