William Hall
Joseph Hall
(Cir 1838-Between 1871/1878)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Mary Kelly

Joseph Hall 1 2 3

  • Born: Cir 1838, London, St. George East 4 5
  • Marriage (1): Mary Kelly on 25 Jun 1860 in Swansea, , Glamorgan, Wales 1
  • Died: Between 1871 and 1878 3 6
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bullet  General Notes:

can't find him on the 1871 but Mary says "married" rather than widowed in 1871
If he is the apprentice in 1851, he is likely the son of John and Dorothy
poss birth
Hall Joseph St Luke 2 184
because of the definitive "London St George East"

only 1 really strong candidate - but father's name is wrong.

d) right place St George East, but father is thomas not william and no occupation listed.

LMA has the baptism of a Joseph Hall s of Thomas Samuel and Ellen Hall ,Lower Chapman street, general dealer - which is a good career fit as this family has variously been called traders, hawkers, 2nd hand sellers etc
dec 26 1837 dob, baptism feb 4, 1838. is the same family as the 1841 census - Lower Chapman Street.
So unless a better candidate comes along, I'm happy to put Joseph as part of this family with a surety of 2.

Now I've foun a marriage of a Joseph Hall in 1857 to a Sophia Wheeler, where the father is listed as Thomas Samuel Hall, wine packer, it is pretty clear that our Joseph is not the son of Thomas Samuel Hall and therefore I am removing all siblings and parents and will continue to look for my Joseph's parents, he did indicate William hall as his father in his marriage cert, will have to go back and revisit that - April 2020

I just cannot find a Joseph with the

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bullet  Noted events in his life were:

1. Occupation: Hawker. 1

2. Lived at: Great Tower Street, 1851, Barking, London.

3. Lived at: 11 John Street, 1861, Swansea, , Glamorgan, Wales. 5

4. Occupation: House Servant, 1851, Barking, London.

5. Occupation: shoemaker, Mar 1861, Swansea, , Glamorgan, Wales. 5



6. Occupation: Cobbler, Jun 1861, Swansea, , Glamorgan, Wales. 2


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Joseph married Mary Kelly, daughter of Jeremiah Kelly and Mary Croneen, on 25 Jun 1860 in Swansea, , Glamorgan, Wales.1 (Mary Kelly was born in 1828 in County Cork 5 6 7 and died after 31 Mar 1911 7.)


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Sources


1 England and Wales, marriage certificate for Joseph Hall and Mary Kelly, married 25th June; citing 11a/759/490, June quarter 1860, Swansea registration district, Swansea sub-district; General Register Office, Southport. Cit. Date: Aug 2004. Cit. ID: WMXZ 095643, Surety: 4; 1860 parish church parish of swansea glamorgan
490
25th june 1860
joseph hall
mary kelly
of full age
of full age
bachelor
widow
shoemaker
-
wells street
wells street
william hall
jeremiah kelly
tailor
sailor
mark of mary kelly
daniel callaghan
the mark of emily lynch
banns
latimer jones curate

2 England and Wales, Birth Certificate for Eliza Hall, born Third June 1861; citing 11a/491/289, September quarter 1861, Swansea registration district, Swansea in the County of Glamorgan sub-district; General Register Office, Southport. Cit. Date: Feb 2005. Cit. ID: WBXZ 165620, Surety: 4; Swansea subdistrict Swansea
#289
Third June, 1861
John Street Swansea
Eliza girl
Joseph Hall,
Mary Hall formerly Kelly
Cobler
The mark of Mary Hall
Sixteenth July 1861
John Oakshott Registrar
Charles Collins Supt. Reg.

3 England and Wales, marriage certificate for Albert Powe and Eliza Hall, married June 16; citing 11a/1150/460, March quarter 1899, Swansea registration district, Swansea sub-district; General Register Office, Southport. Cit. Date: Dec 2000. Cit. ID: WMXZ 054013, Surety: 4; 1878 parish church swansea glamorgan
#460
june 16 1878
albert powe eliza powe
22 17
bachelor spinster
confectioner -
orange street orange street
john powe
joseph hall deceased
confectioner
hawker
charles pugsley
john jones
C Cary Bull Curate

4 Published by Ancestry.co.uk (1851 English and Welsh Census(London, TNA/Ancestry.co.uk, 1952) , Web site showing copies of original enumerator schedules) ID: CEN 1851, CEN 1851 ho107 2095 652 42. Repository: Call Number: film 0087558. Cit. Date: 23 Dec 2006. Cit. ID: CEN 1851 ho107 2095 652 42. Surety: 2.

5 (1861 English and Welsh Census(London, TNA/Ancestry.co.uk, 1962) , Web site showing copies of original enumerator schedules) ID: CEN 1861, CEn 1861 rg9 4105 21 35. Repository: LDS, Brampton. Cit. Date: 23 Dec 2006. Cit. ID: CEn 1861 rg9 4105 21 35. Surety: 2.

6 (1901 English and Welsh Census(London, TNA/Ancestry.co.uk, 2002) , Web site showing copies of original enumerator schedules) ID: CEN 1901, RG13 5078 Holy Trinity Swansea. Cit. ID: CEN 1901 RG13/5078. Surety: 3.

7 (1901 English and Welsh Census(London, TNA/Ancestry.co.uk, 2002) , Web site showing copies of original enumerator schedules) ID: CEN 1901, Surety: 3.


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